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Libertarians Do It Laissez-Faire
Robert Locke has an article in The American Conservative deigning libertarianism “Marxism of the Right.”
While conservatives may view the article as the long awaited, valiant answer to Atlas Shrugged fans, and libertarians may view it as the regurgitated tripe of a myopic blowhard, I instead see in this article the possibility of a marvelous taxonomic venture.
From my admittedly biased reading, Mr. Locke has gone out of his way to include a member of every genus of logical fallacy. Not only is the reader provided with commonly seen ad hominems, but also an encyclopedic collection of exotic and rarely seen strawmen, and strange species of circular reasoning. Here, one can spot a non sequitur quietly slithering through the paragraphs, there, a gaggle of post hocs, and even lovely begging-of-the-questions, in full plumage no less! And several varieties of outright strange points.
This opportunity for classification is surely too good to pass up. Fallacy-watchers, open your nature books.
Flitting about as the first line, no less, the reader can catch a glimpse of this magnificent creature, the enchanting Blue-Beaked Ad Hominem:
Free spirits, the ambitious, ex-socialists, drug users, and sexual eccentrics often find an attractive political philosophy in libertarianism…
Ah yes, the old saw about pot and sodomy, so relevant to the validity of a political ideology (and Heaven forbid our philosophy should attract “the ambitious”). Well, if we’re going to be judged by gross generalizations of the company we keep, perhaps it’s only fair to return the ruling. Religious fundamentalists, ex-Klan members, creationist country bumpkins, homophobes, and lousy American Conservative columnists often find an attractive political philosophy in conservatism.
Within a paragraph, another nervous Ad Hominem has approached the feeder, this time a lost baby:
There are many varieties of libertarianism, from natural-law libertarianism (the least crazy) to anarcho-capitalism (the most)…
Catallarchy readers, your strait jackets are in the mail. Nozick’s lucky he died before we could find an asylum that would take him.
Joined in short by its brother:
Libertarians in real life rarely live up to their own theory but tend to indulge in the pleasant parts while declining to live up to the difficult portions.
An intense and surely accurate survey of the libertarian population asserted without a single reference.
Ah, the father Ad Hom, joining its roost!
And libertarianism degenerates into outright idiocy when confronted with the problem of children, whom it treats like adults…
Almost as egregious a sin as treating adults like children, which has been the conservative philosophy to date. But speaking of outright idiocy…
What’s this, fallacy-watchers? Binoculars up! It’s a flock of Southern Black-Winged False Premises, returning from their northern migration. Let’s watch.
Libertarianism offers its believers a clear conscience to do things society presently restrains, like make more money, have more sex, or take more drugs.
I imagine someone as aged as Locke could believe there’s no difference between allowing people the freedom to choose something and approving of that choice—but I don’t think it’s likely.
Incidentally, is there some kind of legal limit currently in force on the amount of sex I can have? If so, I better slow down.
If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then libertarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism.
Not that I imagine it matters to Mr. Locke at this point (we are three paragraphs into his article), but nothing in libertarianism necessitates acting selfishly. In fact, one can probably find at this very libertarian blog, on this very libertarian page, no less, writers lauding private charity.
Perhaps pertinent is the fact that economists postulate an incentive of rational self-interest to explain behavior—not rational-altruism.
Or as David Friedman put it: libertarianism allows for collectivism, it does not require it. Mr. Locke’s conservatopia does.
Like Marxism, libertarianism offers the fraudulent intellectual security of a complete a priori account of the political good without the effort of empirical investigation.
Which is why libertarians never refer to economic theory, or Hong Kong, or Iceland, or the failure of collectivist empires.
Like Marxism, it aspires, overtly or covertly, to reduce social life to economics.
Which is why we, unlike the Marxists, actually made sure we understood the subject before we reduced everything to it.
…[L]ike Marxism, it has its historical myths and a genius for making its followers feel like an elect unbound by the moral rules of their society.
Which is why Micha and I go out every weekend looking for hoboes to shoot.
Libertarians try to get around this fact that freedom is not the only good thing by trying to reduce all other goods to it through the concept of choice, claiming that everything that is good is so because we choose to partake of it.
An interesting argument, considering most libertarians believe politicians choose to screw us over, and yet seldom find any goodness in the act.
Furthermore, the reduction of all goods to individual choices presupposes that all goods are individual.
Only if you believe that no individual will choose to act for the collective good—but if that’s true, how does one propose to make them vote that way?
Ah, zee majestic and rare Red-Tailed Strawman Argument. Let us watch its elegant approach:
The most fundamental problem with libertarianism is very simply: freedom, though a good thing, is simply not the only good thing in life.
Gosh, you wouldn’t know it from Bush’s preaching about the Middle East. Collateral damage be damned: freedom by executive fiat!
To be fair, all libertarians do believe freedom is the only important thing. Most of us will often skip meals and instead eat big warm servings of freedom. This is why so many of us are so skinny. And dead.
A family is in fact one of the least free things imaginable, as the emotional satisfactions of it derive from relations that we are either born into without choice or, once they are chosen, entail obligations that we cannot walk way from with ease or justice.
Do Away With The Traditional Family! was in fact the runner up for best libertarian slogan. (The winner was of course the now famous: Libertarians Do It Laissez-Faire.)
Knowing that few libertarians want to do away with the cherished familial unit, Mr. Locke assumes that libertarianism must be a contradictory philosophy; he fails to entertain the possibility that libertarianism does not entail the absolute prioritization of freedom that Mr. Locke thinks it does. Of course, it’s the libertarians who are wrong about the implications of libertarianism, not Mr. Locke.
No sooner have the Strawmen taken their fill, but a pair of rambunctious young Post Hocs come bounding out of the nearby bushes:
And if libertarians ever do acquire power, we may expect a farrago of bizarre policies. Many support abolition of government-issued money in favor of that minted by private banks. But this has already been tried, in various epochs, and doesn’t lead to any wonderful paradise of freedom but only to an explosion of fraud and currency debasement followed by the concentration of financial power in those few banks that survive the inevitable shaking-out. Many other libertarian schemes similarly founder on the empirical record.
Yes, and let’s not forget the conservative record—for instance, the glorious utopia of state-sponsored religion that was the Spanish Inquisition. Or the brilliant interventionist success that was Vietnam.
Mr. Locke would apparently prefer that the government have a monopoly on “fraud and currency debasement.”
A major reason for this is that libertarianism has a naïve view of economics that seems to have stopped paying attention to the actual history of capitalism around 1880. There is not the space here to refute simplistic laissez faire, but note for now that the second-richest nation in the world, Japan, has one of the most regulated economies, while nations in which government has essentially lost control over economic life, like Russia, are hardly economic paradises. Legitimate criticism of over-regulation does not entail going to the opposite extreme.
Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, for instance, are two libertarian economists who refused to read anything published after 1863. (Milton thought old paper smelled better, and Hayek—well, "Nutty Hayek" they used to call him).
Moreover, what a ridiculously bad post hoc ergo propter hoc. Japan is regulated, therefore regulation is good. Nazis urinated, therefore all who urinate are Nazis.
A squawk in the sky, and then a timid Australian Fine Feathered Fallacy appears in the sky, chasing its own tail and making a lazy circle:
While it is obviously fair to let people enjoy the benefits of their wise choices and suffer the costs of their stupid ones, decent societies set limits on both these outcomes.
It is decent to limit freedom. How do we know? Because decent societies limit freedom.
And what outing would be complete without spotting a herd of the Long Toothed Outright Weird?
… [L]ibertarianism is an all-or-nothing proposition: if society continues to protect people from the consequences of their actions in any way, libertarianism regarding specific freedoms is illegitimate. And since society does so protect people, libertarianism is an illegitimate moral position until the Great Libertarian Revolution has occurred.
Not sure what category this fits into as yet. A newly discovered species perhaps. The argument, I believe, is that if we were to say people are allowed to use drugs, then people would use drugs because they knew that if they lost their jobs from drug use, then they’d be able to get unemployment compensation. But such reasoning does not a good argument make—it is clear that the government does buffer us against some personal failures, but it is by no means true that it buffers against all: presumably, the drug user still gets good and fired, libertarian society or no.
The libertopian alternative would be perhaps a more glittering society, but also a crueler one.
As opposed to the warm and welcoming bosom of conservatopia, where if you puff a joint or snort some coke, we’ll lock you in a little hole, or, barring that, elect you President.
Libertarianism itself is based on the conviction that it is the one true political philosophy and all others are false. It entails imposing a certain kind of society, with all its attendant pluses and minuses, which the inhabitants thereof will not be free to opt out of except by leaving.
This is different from any other political philosophy how? Is it not true that believing one political philosophy is true entails believing the alternatives false? Or is Mr. Locke willing to admit that both conservatism and libertarianism are true? In which case, wherefore this dribble?
And how exactly are we to be free to opt out of the conservative imposition of society, “with all its attendant pluses and minuses,” short of leaving?
Begged Questions flock to the brook:
Libertarians need to be asked some hard questions. What if a free society needed to draft its citizens in order to remain free? What if it needed to limit oil imports to protect the economic freedom of its citizens from unfriendly foreigners? What if it needed to force its citizens to become sufficiently educated to sustain a free society? What if it needed to deprive landowners of the freedom to refuse to sell their property as a precondition for giving everyone freedom of movement on highways? What if it needed to deprive citizens of the freedom to import cheap foreign labor in order to keep out poor foreigners who would vote for socialistic wealth redistribution?
Yes, and what if an asteroid smashes into conservatopia, eradicating not only bacteria, but even Sean Hannity? What if the conservative forces of government don’t properly mix altruism and selfishness? What if they curtail domestic liberties and implement an authoritarian state? What if Bill Frist crowns himself Emperor of the Tri-State Area?
And a lonely Striped Non Sequitur rustles through the nearby grass:
Empirically, most people don’t actually want absolute freedom, which is why democracies don’t elect libertarian governments.
Of course. And, empirically mind you, most people want agricultural subsidies, tariffs, and massive amounts of pork barrel spending (they also want Presidents fellated in the Oval Office).
What a glorious parade of exotic arguments.
What absolute piffle.
Conservatives should stick to what they’re good at: having abysmally boring missionary-style-sex with Korean prostitutes while their middle-aged botox-ridden wives are out shopping. The reality-based community is a little too busy (too "ambitious") to play with them at the moment.
UPDATE:
Somebody pointed out in the commentary to this post that I committed many of the same fallacies as Locke in my fisking.
I do not deny it. When Locke grants libertarians the courtesy of addressing their strongest arguments, and not simply the ridiculous strawmen that make up whatever he defines as "street" libertarianism, then we will be happy to defend ourselves in kind. Until then, people like me will instead use his attacks as podiums for our own metaphor-laced brand of immature humor. Those who want more are encouraged to ignore my postings, and--please--create your own.
I'll fight fire with fire, and--correspondingly--I'm more than willing to fight shit with shit.
"Funniest thing I’ve read
"Funniest thing I’ve read today. Thanks Scott."
A pleasure, Matt.
Required Reading Boneheaded
Boneheaded columnist from The American Conservative taken to task for stupid, anti-libertarian screed. My favorite lines of the fisking:To be fair, all libertarians do believe freedom is the only important thing. Most of us will often skip meals and in...
Funniest thing I've read
Funniest thing I've read today. Thanks Scott.
Taking Care of the Light
You may have seen this silly thing Robert Locke wrote for The American Conservative, titled Marxism of the Right, referring to libertarianism. I just finished reading Scott Scheule's fisking of Locke's article. Fisking isn't a strong enough word. A...
I was so energized by the
I was so energized by the rush from dismantling Locke's pretensions (http://www.eternityroad.info/index.php/weblog/single/and_now_embarrassing_himself_for_your_entertainment_its_robert_locke/), I went on to shred all the rest of political theory as well (http://www.eternityroad.info/index.php/weblog/single/the_calculus_of_freedom/)
Marvelous! Bravo!
Marvelous! Bravo!
The lead-in was funny. There
The lead-in was funny. There was some hilarious sarcasm. The whole framing device was great. But...where's the real dissection?
I can imagine Locke (or someone) reading this, and it confirming every delusion that conservatives hold of libertarians. (Or worse--what about those poor young college students who aren't quite sure whether libertarianism holds any promise for them, and instead opt to volunteer for the Dick Cheney 2008 campaign?? *shudder* YOU COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT! Do you really want that on your conscience?)
A couple of points:
- You're comparing "Free spirits, the ambitious, ex-socialists, drug users, and sexual eccentrics" to "Religious fundamentalists, ex-Klan members, creationist country bumpkins, homophobes, and lousy American Conservative columnists"? In reality, -by what right- does anybody have to impose their will because one is a free spirit, or an ex-socialist, or a drug user, or a sexual eccentric (or ambitious? wtf?)? And the world would certainly be better off if Klansmen, creationists, and homophobes were libertarians: they'd end up leaving everybody alone instead of trying to use the coercive power of government to get their way.
- I'm not sure I would agree that "Libertarianism itself is based on the conviction that it is the one true political philosophy and all others are false." This could be my own spin, but I've always considered libertarianism quite an UNpolitical philosophy, insofar as politics is about the coercive use of force (...legitimately...). Libertarianism distributes the use of power, and limits its coerciveness. There is nothing, in a libertarian world, that would preclude one from forming a collectivist "nation," or a conservative one for that matter. Moreover, libetarianism -acknowledges- and -embraces- the fact that what we know about the world and how it and the people in it function is limited, and changes over time, and that governments change too slowly (often at the expense of a few ordinary lives). Anybody still taking issue with my spin should ask themselves whether affirming that the Earth orbits the Sun is a mere conceit that "I'm right and you're all wrong, nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah." If so, then I guess Locke has a point...
- Finally, the "hard questions" that Locke poses *really are hard questions*. And by averting the issue, you're letting Locke *frame them in his favor*. (Who says that in order to maintain freedom you'd *need* to draft people? Isn't that just Locke's begging-the-question rearing its head?) In particular, I've always found the issue of immigrants, not steeped in the traditions of freedom and laissez-faire attitudes, but coming from a world where (say) socialism and distrust are rampant, influencing a more-or-less free government, to be a difficult one to answer. Libertarianism offers the best solution by simply limiting the damage that any one group can do on a large scale. But, sooner or later, without a shared cultural experience, even libertarianism loses its cohesiveness in the community, and gets overrun with collectivism.
Overall, I laughed, but not as much as I would have had this been a strictly tongue-in-cheek poke at conservative visions of wacky libertarianism. And I thought, but not as much as I would have had this been a strict rebuttal of Locke's central points.
But then, I'm new here. And I'll get over it. (But if I happen to meet a fresh-out-of-college slacker who's working for the Cheney '08 campaign who, at one time, *seriously considered* delving further into libertarian writings, until one late winter evening in 2005...I'LL REMEMBER THIS DAY.)
"The lead-in was funny.
"The lead-in was funny. There was some hilarious sarcasm. The whole framing device was great. But…where’s the real dissection?"
You want dissection, go to a biology lab. I was hired for my looks.
As to my writing confirming Locke's delusions--well, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
I had considered doing an intelligent dissection of Locke's article, but after actually reading it, I decided he didn't deserve it. Perhaps you feel differently--and if so, please, by all means, dissect away. I'll gladly link to you.
I'm afraid I don't understand your first point, but as to hard questions, my point was that there are plenty of hard questions for any political philosophy to deal with, and my suggestion was that perhaps some of those questions are not realistically necessary. If an asteroid is going to crash into the Earth tomorrow and destroy all life--then libertarianism and conservatism are going to lose some of their oomph. But such an event is not particularly likely. It never occurred to Locke that the necessity of a draft would prove similarly unlikely.
Moreover, those questions were premised on Locke's strawman version of libertarianism: one where freedom is king, pragmatism is unheard of, and it's better for a million children to die than one propery right to be violated. Such may be some peoples' understanding of libertarianism--but nobody I know.
And libertarians have no need to ask those questions--for they already ask them all the time. They fight at length with one another over topics such as immigration, such as the draft, etc. Only Locke's mythical "street" libertarians are so obtuse as to evade the hard questions.
"(But if I happen to meet a fresh-out-of-college slacker who’s working for the Cheney ‘08 campaign who, at one time, seriously considered delving further into libertarian writings, until one late winter evening in 2005…I’LL REMEMBER THIS DAY.)"
Haven't you heard? We're after the ambitious sexual-deviant pot-smoking demographic... not nascent GOP slackers.
Josh, You're probably right.
Josh,
You're probably right. As it stands, I just haven't found that many conservatives to turn on, so my experience is limited.
Mr. Darcy, your additions
Mr. Darcy, your additions are doubtlessly accurate.
But as Mr. Locke thought he'd address libertarianism in its "vulgar" variety, I doubt my fault in addressing vulgar conservatism--with all the numerous strawmen that of course entails--can be described as severe.
That being said, no doubt my own post above is shot straight through with logical fallacies all its own; when Mr. Locke presents an argument against libertarianism free from such fallacies, I will be more than willing to return my own. As it stands, quid pro quo--we can all rail sarcastically against the less intelligent incarnations of any political philosophy. By no means should Mr. Locke be immune from his own weaponry, in my opinion.
My aim was humor--and so, pray forgive me my freely admitted logical sins. Were Mr. Locke trying to be funny, I would have (probably) granted him the same courtesy.
Fisking gems I've ran into
I've ran into several good "fisks" and critical pieces recently, so I thought I'd link to them all in one post. Scott Scheule offers a healthy, educational response to Robert Locke's latest article in The American Conservative. It's probably the...
Go for the jugular! Bring
Bring out yer thesauruses and look for the equivalents of the verb destroy because that’s what Scott Schuele has done with Robert Locke and his article for the American Conservative "Marxism of the Right".
Looking at the bloggers and
Looking at the bloggers and commenters here and on a few other libertarian websites, all I can say is that if it's really about wanting more sex, you guys better find a movement that attracts more women. :smitten:
Robert Locke Gets a
The article "The Marxism of the Right" by Robert Locke, to be published in the upcoming March issue of The American Conservative, has been getting a great beating lately from the libertarian blogosphere, and for good reason. It's chock-full of misst...
I don't know if this is your
I don't know if this is your experience or not, Scott, but when I turn on conservatives here at law school, and point out the incoherence of conservative ideas and their rank hypocrisy on the size of government, they get a lot angrier then when a liberal does it. I pick up a sense that they feel that I'm somehow betraying them or turning on them.
For example, we had a speaker come to campus not too long ago under the aegis of the Federalist Society. We were hanging out afterwards, when he smiled and asked if we were going to deliver Ohio to Bush. I laughed and said I'd sooner deliver it to the devil. Boy, did that not go over well, especially when I pointed out Bush was a big-spending authoritarian jackass.
- Josh
THE ONLY reason i need to be
THE ONLY reason i need to be a libertarian is to somehow protect me from people like Locke.:razz:
WOW WOW WOW!!!!! i've never
WOW WOW WOW!!!!! i've never read anything that disjointed, both intellectually and factually, in my life. WOOOHOOOO what a raving idiot.
Its actually hard to read it and not laugh out loud. I don't know where to begin. :dunce:
***Applause***
***Applause***
This post was a thing of
This post was a thing of beauty and a joy forever; however, I was a bit confused by the reference to the "reality-based community" at the end - what do militant atheist neo-Marxists have to do with the topic at hand?
Very well done, and I
Very well done, and I enjoyed it (even though I am hardly a libertarian, but there seem to be a few sightings absent from your field log. Please allow me to add a few.
Tu quoque, followed by strawman.
Ad hominem ("as aged") followed by strawman ("Locke could believe") not excused by equivocation ("I imagine" and "I don't think").
Shifted burden. Locke's statement might in fact be false, and proven so by examples, but it's not his responsibility to make Scheule's arguments. Also, until Scheule at least attempts to demonstrate relevance, mere mention of Iceland etc. qualifies as non sequitur.
Tu quoque again.
Slippery slope. "Unbound by the moral rules of their society" does not equal "unbound by any rules whatsoever."
Well-poisoning.
Tu quoque #4, on the heels of a strawman. Locke is trying to address an argument of "if X then Y" with "sometimes X but not Y" which is perfectly valid. If he had made the stronger claim that "X therefore not Y" it would indeed by post hoc, but he didn't.
False dilemma. Maybe Mr. Locke prefers that fraud and currency debasement not occur at all, and believes (rightly or wrongly) that it would not occur under government control. Again, a mistaken belief is not the same as a fallacy.
The aforementioned strawman returns to the well.